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TGTech
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USA
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Posted - 11/14/2004 :  11:26:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should be allowed to answer this one, because I didn't have one of those.

Dane

firstturn
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Posted - 11/14/2004 :  11:45:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dane,
I think you should answer the question and we EXPECT some history and not just a one sentence answer. That's the price one pays for a middle name like Penton.

Ron Carbaugh

Edited by - firstturn on 11/14/2004 11:46:41 AM
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BrianTaylor
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Canada
310 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  7:58:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We need Dwight Rudder to answer the American Helmut change issue ... he posted it a few months ago on Vinduro and it was pretty interesting ........BT ( still green with white stripe )

Brian Taylor
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Dwight Rudder
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USA
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Posted - 11/16/2004 :  01:51:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dwight Rudder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dane could answer this one because I believe he had one of the very first splayed stripe ( skunk stripe ) ISDT helments. The early helmets were based on internation Gran Prix colours. Like British racing green, Italian Red, Belgian yellow, and USA White with two LeMans style blue stripes.
For some reason for the ISDT / International colour Motorcycle racing helmets, the colour was reversed. Thus the Blue helmet with two white LeMans stripes.
Later when Bell Helmets became the "Official" AMA TEAM helmet they were told to supply Blue helmets with two white stripes. They delivered the "SKUNK STRIPE" style. The riders at first hated the new look. But later when other teams commented on how the new style stood out and was noticed the riders came to like the new helmet.
This is the story as I hear it.
Dwight

Dwight Rudder
7 time ISDT / E medalist
8 time National Enduro Class Champion.
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Doug Wilford
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USA
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Posted - 11/16/2004 :  06:28:13 AM  Show Profile  Send Doug Wilford an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Bell Helmets were donated to all the American ISDT participants the first ones (pre-1971) were Blue with two La Manns stripes offset on the side, there was also a USA on one side and a 3M American Flag on the other. See photo of the month.
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crash carden
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USA
244 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2004 :  12:51:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,does anyone know if John Penton had full face helmets made for sale with the Penton logo on the visor,color Penton green? I thought maybe HiPoint may have produced some helmets back in the day or perhaps Bell? Thanks for any help, Crash Carden-GO TEAM PENTON!
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firstturn
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4246 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2004 :  06:50:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crash,
I don't have my catelogs handy, but the one on ebay is probably just a sticker added. Open for new thoughts. I am lost without my library....probably lost with it, you know, no red arrows to point the way

Ron Carbaugh
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crash carden
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USA
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Posted - 11/20/2004 :  1:36:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ron, thanks for the input. No wonder you didn't bid on it,and here I thought I found a treasure. I guess there ain't much you miss is there. See ya, Crash.
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firstturn
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Posted - 11/20/2004 :  1:59:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crash,
You know if there is anything you have to have (or want) just email me and we will help each other.


Ron Carbaugh
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Paul Danik
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Posted - 12/26/2004 :  7:50:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recieved the book "40 Summers Ago" for Christmas, yes I must have been a good boy! In the book there is some discussion about the helmets that the first USA VASE team used in 1964. The team was made up of Steve McQueen, Bud and Dave Ekins and Cliff Coleman with Johnny Steen as alternate, all on Triumphs. The helmets were the Bell 500-TX and they were painted by Von Dutch whom was working for Bud Ekins at the time. The helmets actually had three white strips, each with a red pinstripe between the white and the blue. The center white stripe was wider than the side stripes and the side stripes angled away from the center stripe in the front. According to the author, Bud Ekins had always wore Bell helmets and had gotten Bell Toptex to supply them for the team.
In a photo from the 1961 ISDT in Wales, Bud is shown wearing a helmet with the more common two white stripes.
I really enjoyed this book which is more a collection of photos with captions than a book of a million words, but many stories were told with the aid of the photos.
Paul
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